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Monday, February 17,2014

New study proves gun control works

Immediate local murder spike accompanies state deregulation

By Josh Gross

The BBC is reporting on a new study relating to the 2007 repeal of a Missouri gun control law that required purchasers to go through a vetting process and obtain a license before being able to purchase a gun.

The results? "the repeal resulted in an immediate spike in gun violence and murders."

From the BBC...

"Coincident exactly with the policy change, there was an immediate upward trajectory to the homicide rates in Missouri," said Prof Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

"That upward trajectory did not happen with homicides that did not involve guns; it did not occur to any neighbouring state; the national trend was doing the opposite – it was trending downward; and it was not specific to one or two localities – it was, for the most part, state-wide," he told BBC News.

Researchers say they also took into account changes in policing, incarceration and more, as well as controlling for factors like unemployment and poverty.

 Read the full story here.

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Correlation does not imply causation.


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So this guy thinks that before 2007, criminals who wanted a gun were going to the police to get a license, and now they don't have to, so they're buying more guns and committing more crimes? What an idiot.


The BBC??? Coincidentially people in the UK are calling for a revisit of the near gun ban in the UK and relieving its tight restrictions. So the government run news agency is now reporting some very questionable study supporting gun control and just how relaxed gun control causes more gun crime. Wow we don't need to see any scientific study we just need to read a quote from a government run news agency in England, right??? Seems to me that our discussion with England about gun control ended with us wining the argument oh about 239 years ago. I would say for the purposes of discussion on a legal basis this information presented by the writer is immeterial and irrelavant. Remember what Freud said: "The fear of weapons indicates retarded sexual and emotional maturity." So just who are all the crazy people anyway???


I did look at the larger story although the BBC did not elect to publish the study. It appears that there was a direct correlation between guns found at crimes and recovered from criminals that were recently sold. My question is why the NICS background check required by all firearms purchases did not identify the criminal at the point of purchase???? Without all the facts, the evidence and how it was collected there can be no evaluation as to the method applied to reach the conclusion. It appears that Johns Hopkins Medical professionals were conducting the study. I appears that we must license any publications to see if their results folow properly defined standards to protect the public from erronous conclusions and misapplied information. After all the type of public peace disrupted by bad reporting is on the same footing as yelling fire in a crowded theater.


"The fear of weapons indicates retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Even if this were really said by Freud, which it wasn't, it's pretty irrelevant. Gun groupies throw out a wild mix of non sequiturs, made up unverified bunk they get from each other, and attacks on the messenger whenever anyone questions their religion, just as other true believers do. Anyone with no fear of weapons would be pretty stupid.